sandman
lets start with cinni
the backbone of the offence(mc clesty) is gone. all three wr from last season are gone. the line does return 3 starters. but will they look like with new running backs.they looked like shit when mcclesky was hurt last season.
lets go to def
dl was hit hard supreme pass rusher and teams leading tackler and 6.5 sacks a game gone. return 2 on dl.
lbs lost 2 starting lbs
lost both starting cbs but do have cb zach norton back
also lost safety ivan feilds(95 tackles)
LOST PLACE KICKER(3year starter)
untried soph to replace him
true fresh as the punter
as soon as I mix a drinkI will be back with ecu
panther
lets start with cinni
the backbone of the offence(mc clesty) is gone. all three wr from last season are gone. the line does return 3 starters. but will they look like with new running backs.they looked like shit when mcclesky was hurt last season.
lets go to def
dl was hit hard supreme pass rusher and teams leading tackler and 6.5 sacks a game gone. return 2 on dl.
lbs lost 2 starting lbs
lost both starting cbs but do have cb zach norton back
also lost safety ivan feilds(95 tackles)
LOST PLACE KICKER(3year starter)
untried soph to replace him
true fresh as the punter
as soon as I mix a drinkI will be back with ecu
panther
i was kinda eyeballin` the under....."57"....from what i`ve read,e.c.u.`s new coach is a "defensive" oriented guy.....throw in the info panther laid out on the cincy offensive losses,the fact that e.c.u is starting a qb(robinson)that`s not real experienced and has more of an option bent to him than troth(although i understand that troth will play).....
art brown was gone long ago...throw in some potential for rain....
where are 57 points coming from?..i guess turnovers and mistakes could screrw me......i may be wrong,but,after looking it over,that`s what i came up with....
just an fyi.....g.l. whatever you do....
[This message was edited by sphincter on September 01, 2003 at 02:00 AM.]
art brown was gone long ago...throw in some potential for rain....
where are 57 points coming from?..i guess turnovers and mistakes could screrw me......i may be wrong,but,after looking it over,that`s what i came up with....
just an fyi.....g.l. whatever you do....
[This message was edited by sphincter on September 01, 2003 at 02:00 AM.]
guys
Icannot beleive I spent almost a hour on the ecu write up hit post and my computer freezes up here is the abv
coach john thompsom (def cord from fla)
return 5 starters on def but with all the def injuries last year all replacements have seen alot of playing time
off return rb marvin towens who split time and was a better receiver than art brown
return the good hands team of wr terrance copper and damarcus fox
o line is rock solid
troth started last year (drop back passer)
robinson (mc nabb type qb) played 3 series a game last year reverse them this year
more of a run threat at qb
guys you will be suprised . this is not the ecu team you have seen the last 2 years.
good luck
panther
Icannot beleive I spent almost a hour on the ecu write up hit post and my computer freezes up here is the abv
coach john thompsom (def cord from fla)
return 5 starters on def but with all the def injuries last year all replacements have seen alot of playing time
off return rb marvin towens who split time and was a better receiver than art brown
return the good hands team of wr terrance copper and damarcus fox
o line is rock solid
troth started last year (drop back passer)
robinson (mc nabb type qb) played 3 series a game last year reverse them this year
more of a run threat at qb
guys you will be suprised . this is not the ecu team you have seen the last 2 years.
good luck
panther
Panther.....How ya doing buddy??I just thought I would give ya my 2 cents as well.
Love ECU today.....Cincy's Qb(Guliana)?? is fvcken awful.
I got a Moneyline at +360 as well(Oasiscasino.com)
ECU WINS OUTRIGHT
GOOD LUCK TO US......WE MAY BE ALONE ON THIS PLAY TODAY BUT THAT'S JUST FINE
Take Care And Good Luck On The Season
Love ECU today.....Cincy's Qb(Guliana)?? is fvcken awful.
I got a Moneyline at +360 as well(Oasiscasino.com)
ECU WINS OUTRIGHT
GOOD LUCK TO US......WE MAY BE ALONE ON THIS PLAY TODAY BUT THAT'S JUST FINE
Take Care And Good Luck On The Season
panther I go to ECU and I think they will keep this game very close and maybe upset Cincy here... What I do like about Ecu in this game... The Cincy coach didn't really know what to gameplan for, that is atleast what he said during an interview this week.. Also the O-line is very good this year for ECU.. Plus Cincy lost alot of guys from their team last year on both sides..I know Art Brown got hurt but the backfield is very deep///..
Final score should be Cincy 24 -20
Final score should be Cincy 24 -20
Info from local paper today in NC....
Opener in Cincinnati will be a test of new defensive regime
By AL MYATT, Staff Writer
In East Carolina's last game last season, a 42-26 loss to Cincinnati, Bearcats freshman quarterback Gino Guidugli passed for 323 yards and four touchdowns. DeMarco McCleskey piled up 161 yards rushing for Cincinnati on 30 carries.
Those were not aberrant performances for opponents during ECU's 4-8 season. The Pirates allowed 445.7 yards per game, last in Conference USA, and foes averaged 33.2 points.
ECU has implemented numerous changes after the disappointment of 2002, and the same Bearcats will provide a measuring stick for their effectiveness as the repackaged Pirates open at Cincinnati at noon today.
New ECU coach John Thompson has been a defensive coordinator at Florida, Arkansas and Southern Miss. The intent of his defensive approach is simple.
"We want to get the ball back as quickly as possible," he said.
Thompson has sought to raise the confidence of the ECU defensive unit within a more aggressive system. The Pirates will show 3- and 4-man fronts. They will move before the snap to confuse the offense. They'll be unpredictable with various blitzes. They'll disguise coverages.
The process of teaching the new system is similar to what Thompson did when he joined coach Ron Zook's first Gators staff last season, but the learning rate has been accelerated because of his familiarity with his staff.
"It's totally different because we knew each other so much better here," he said.
The staff had a feel for what Thompson wanted before it ever convened in Greenville. Thompson knew ECU defensive backs coach Matt Graves at Arkansas. Thompson coached with former Ole Miss defensive coordinator Art Kaufman, ECU's defensive line coach, at Northwestern (La.) State. Outside linebackers coach Fred Tate played on the defensive front when Thompson was at Southern Miss. Thompson brought former Gators linebackers coach Jerry Odom with him from Florida to be defensive coordinator.
Thompson calls Odom, "the Gap Guru" because of his quick ability to comprehend and adjust to situations on the field. Odom grew up splicing game tape for his dad, Gerald, a highly-successful high school coach in Coco, Fla., who is approaching 300 career wins. Now Odom has a computerized program that can call up tape from several angles of any play in an ECU practice.
"This is an opportunity I've been preparing for my whole life," Odom said of the challenge of upgrading ECU's defense. Odom is dedicated to the extent that he used to coach high school football in the offseason while starring for the Orlando Predators in the Arena Football League.
McCleskey, who tormented ECU with his forays last season, is gone but if Guidugli and company are just looking at last year's Florida tapes, they may not totally grasp what ECU will present defensively.
"They better keep looking," Odom said. "We've taken a little bit from what everybody has brought to this staff."
The Pirates offense, which faces the defense on a daily basis in practice, has seen changes.
"They're using different techniques," ECU offensive tackle Brian Rimpf said. "They're using their hands differently."
Fullback Vonta Leach said he began to see more cohesion on the other side of the ball in voluntary pass skeleton drills during the summer.
"The defense is more unpredictable," Leach said. "They line up in different formations every time we come up to go against them. You've got linebackers dropping different places. You've got linemen dropping to the flat sometimes. It's a whole lot of different things."
Different, and ECU hopes, better. Cornerback Brandon Rainer wants to escape the secondary's scapegoat status that has coincided with ECU's demise to a 10-14 record over the last two seasons.
"The energy level is so high right now that we're definitely up to the challenge," Rainer said. "We have a lot of guys with experience. We're just going out there and swarm to the ball."
An offensive priority has been to reduce turnovers, which would obviously help the defense. ECU had 31 turnovers last season, but went 4-0 when it had fewer than the opposition. ECU's new defensive system has responsibilities with room for personal initiative. Its design is to get people in position to make plays -- and get the ball back.
"We want to give the players a lot of freedom to out-athlete another player," Thompson said. "We believe very much in the ability to adjust."
There was no question about the need for improvement from ECU's defense. Its progress will be measured today.
Staff writer Al Myatt can be reached at 829-4556 or
ECU DEFENSIVE STARTERS/CAREER STARTS
DE Guy Whimper (0)
NG Derek Helms (0)
DT Damane Duckett (10)
DE Ike Emodi (2)
OLB Josh Chilsom (8)
ILB Chris Moore (7)
OLB Kent Nealy (1)
CB Brandon Rainer (9)
SS Travis Heath (14)
FS Antonie Nealy (0)
CB Donald Whitehead (2)
THE STORY LINES The Pirates open the John Thompson coaching era with a Conference USA game at Cincinnati, the team that closed the Steve Logan era with a 42-26 win in Greenville on Dec. 6. ECU has changed systems and personnel. Desmond Robinson will start at quarterback and Marvin Townes replaces injured Art Brown at running back. The Pirates need to defend Bearcats quarterback Gino Guidugli better than last time (323 yards passing, 4 TDs). Former ECU offensive line coach Steve Shankweiler now has the same job at Cincy.
INJURY UPDATE ECU: DE Ike Emodi (hip), DL Dontre Brown (left knee) and DL Eric Foushee (right shoulder) are probable; DE Sammie Walden (right shoulder) and S Lou Seisay (left ankle) are doubtful; RB Art Brown (right knee), WR Garrett Peterkin (low back) and TE Tutu Moye (left knee) are out. Cincinnati: None.
Opener in Cincinnati will be a test of new defensive regime
By AL MYATT, Staff Writer
In East Carolina's last game last season, a 42-26 loss to Cincinnati, Bearcats freshman quarterback Gino Guidugli passed for 323 yards and four touchdowns. DeMarco McCleskey piled up 161 yards rushing for Cincinnati on 30 carries.
Those were not aberrant performances for opponents during ECU's 4-8 season. The Pirates allowed 445.7 yards per game, last in Conference USA, and foes averaged 33.2 points.
ECU has implemented numerous changes after the disappointment of 2002, and the same Bearcats will provide a measuring stick for their effectiveness as the repackaged Pirates open at Cincinnati at noon today.
New ECU coach John Thompson has been a defensive coordinator at Florida, Arkansas and Southern Miss. The intent of his defensive approach is simple.
"We want to get the ball back as quickly as possible," he said.
Thompson has sought to raise the confidence of the ECU defensive unit within a more aggressive system. The Pirates will show 3- and 4-man fronts. They will move before the snap to confuse the offense. They'll be unpredictable with various blitzes. They'll disguise coverages.
The process of teaching the new system is similar to what Thompson did when he joined coach Ron Zook's first Gators staff last season, but the learning rate has been accelerated because of his familiarity with his staff.
"It's totally different because we knew each other so much better here," he said.
The staff had a feel for what Thompson wanted before it ever convened in Greenville. Thompson knew ECU defensive backs coach Matt Graves at Arkansas. Thompson coached with former Ole Miss defensive coordinator Art Kaufman, ECU's defensive line coach, at Northwestern (La.) State. Outside linebackers coach Fred Tate played on the defensive front when Thompson was at Southern Miss. Thompson brought former Gators linebackers coach Jerry Odom with him from Florida to be defensive coordinator.
Thompson calls Odom, "the Gap Guru" because of his quick ability to comprehend and adjust to situations on the field. Odom grew up splicing game tape for his dad, Gerald, a highly-successful high school coach in Coco, Fla., who is approaching 300 career wins. Now Odom has a computerized program that can call up tape from several angles of any play in an ECU practice.
"This is an opportunity I've been preparing for my whole life," Odom said of the challenge of upgrading ECU's defense. Odom is dedicated to the extent that he used to coach high school football in the offseason while starring for the Orlando Predators in the Arena Football League.
McCleskey, who tormented ECU with his forays last season, is gone but if Guidugli and company are just looking at last year's Florida tapes, they may not totally grasp what ECU will present defensively.
"They better keep looking," Odom said. "We've taken a little bit from what everybody has brought to this staff."
The Pirates offense, which faces the defense on a daily basis in practice, has seen changes.
"They're using different techniques," ECU offensive tackle Brian Rimpf said. "They're using their hands differently."
Fullback Vonta Leach said he began to see more cohesion on the other side of the ball in voluntary pass skeleton drills during the summer.
"The defense is more unpredictable," Leach said. "They line up in different formations every time we come up to go against them. You've got linebackers dropping different places. You've got linemen dropping to the flat sometimes. It's a whole lot of different things."
Different, and ECU hopes, better. Cornerback Brandon Rainer wants to escape the secondary's scapegoat status that has coincided with ECU's demise to a 10-14 record over the last two seasons.
"The energy level is so high right now that we're definitely up to the challenge," Rainer said. "We have a lot of guys with experience. We're just going out there and swarm to the ball."
An offensive priority has been to reduce turnovers, which would obviously help the defense. ECU had 31 turnovers last season, but went 4-0 when it had fewer than the opposition. ECU's new defensive system has responsibilities with room for personal initiative. Its design is to get people in position to make plays -- and get the ball back.
"We want to give the players a lot of freedom to out-athlete another player," Thompson said. "We believe very much in the ability to adjust."
There was no question about the need for improvement from ECU's defense. Its progress will be measured today.
Staff writer Al Myatt can be reached at 829-4556 or
ECU DEFENSIVE STARTERS/CAREER STARTS
DE Guy Whimper (0)
NG Derek Helms (0)
DT Damane Duckett (10)
DE Ike Emodi (2)
OLB Josh Chilsom (8)
ILB Chris Moore (7)
OLB Kent Nealy (1)
CB Brandon Rainer (9)
SS Travis Heath (14)
FS Antonie Nealy (0)
CB Donald Whitehead (2)
THE STORY LINES The Pirates open the John Thompson coaching era with a Conference USA game at Cincinnati, the team that closed the Steve Logan era with a 42-26 win in Greenville on Dec. 6. ECU has changed systems and personnel. Desmond Robinson will start at quarterback and Marvin Townes replaces injured Art Brown at running back. The Pirates need to defend Bearcats quarterback Gino Guidugli better than last time (323 yards passing, 4 TDs). Former ECU offensive line coach Steve Shankweiler now has the same job at Cincy.
INJURY UPDATE ECU: DE Ike Emodi (hip), DL Dontre Brown (left knee) and DL Eric Foushee (right shoulder) are probable; DE Sammie Walden (right shoulder) and S Lou Seisay (left ankle) are doubtful; RB Art Brown (right knee), WR Garrett Peterkin (low back) and TE Tutu Moye (left knee) are out. Cincinnati: None.
